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04ROME1342
2004-04-05 16:38:00
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Embassy Rome
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EU ARMS EMBARGO ON CHINA: ITALY WEARING POKER FACE

Tags:  PARM PREL CH IT EUN HUMAN RIGHTS 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ROME 001342 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/02/2014
TAGS: PARM PREL CH IT EUN HUMAN RIGHTS
SUBJECT: EU ARMS EMBARGO ON CHINA: ITALY WEARING POKER FACE

REF: STATE 68263

CLASSIFIED BY: DCM EMIL SKODON FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ROME 001342

SIPDIS


E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/02/2014
TAGS: PARM PREL CH IT EUN HUMAN RIGHTS
SUBJECT: EU ARMS EMBARGO ON CHINA: ITALY WEARING POKER FACE

REF: STATE 68263

CLASSIFIED BY: DCM EMIL SKODON FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D).


1. (U) PLEASE SEE ACTION REQUESTS IN PARAS 7 AND 8.


2. (C) SUMMARY. ITALY WILL FACTOR ITS DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S. INTO FORMULATING A POSITION ON
WHETHER TO AGREE TO LIFT THE EU EMBARGO. PM BERLUSCONI IS
LIKELY TO BE LOBBIED HARD BY CHINESE PREMIER WEN JIABAO WHEN
HE VISITS ROME IN EARLY MAY. NEVERTHELESS, MFA OFFICIALS
TOLD US THEY BELIEVE ANY DECISION TO REMOVE THE SANCTIONS
WILL NOT HAPPEN SOON BECAUSE THE EU IS DIVIDED INTERNALLY.
EMBASSY WILL RAISE REFTEL POINTS WITH MOD OFFICIALS (AND
REPORT SEPTEL) WHO MAY BE PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO OUR
DEFENSE TRADE LINKAGE. WASHINGTON TRANSMISSION OF ADDITIONAL
DETAILS REGARDING THE ONGOING POLICY REVIEW RELEASABLE TO THE
GOI WOULD HELP US MAKE A MORE EFFECTIVE ARGUMENT WITH A
GOVERNMENT CONCERNED ABOUT UNREALIZED EXPECTATIONS IN THE
AREA OF U.S.-ITALY DEFENSE TRADE COOPERATION. END SUMMARY.



3. (C) AS OF APRIL 5, EMBASSY HAS RAISED REFTEL POINTS WITH
THE PM'S DIPLOMATIC ADVISOR GIOVANNI CASTELLANETA, MFA DEPUTY
DIRECTOR FOR EU SECURITY ISSUES LUIGI MATTIOLO, AND MFA EAST
ASIA OFFICE DIRECTOR CRISTINA RAVAGLIA. AT THE EARLIEST
POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY, WE WILL BRING THEM TO THE ATTENTION OF
MFA U/S MARGHERITA BONIVER, WHO HOLDS THE EAST ASIA AND HUMAN
RIGHTS PORTFOLIOS, MFA OFFICE DIRECTOR FOR DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL
COOPERATION DIEGO UNGARO, AND THE DEFENSE MINISTER'S
DIPLOMATIC ADVISOR, FRANCESCO TRUPIANO. ADDITIONALLY, ODC
ROME WILL CONVEY THE POINTS TO NATIONAL ARMAMENTS DIRECTOR
LT. GEN. GIANNI BOTONDI AS SOON AS A MEETING CAN BE ARRANGED.
WE WILL REPORT RESPONSES SEPTEL.


4. (C) GIOVANNI CASTELLANETA TOLD THE DCM ON MARCH 31 THAT
ONLY THE FRENCH WERE PUSHING HARD TO LIFT THE EMBARGO. HE
NOTED THAT THE ISSUE HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE MARCH 25-26 EU
COUNCIL BUT NO DECISION HAD BEEN REACHED. CASTELLANETA
EXPECTED HEAVY LOBBYING FROM CHINESE PREMIER WEN JIABAO WHEN
HE VISITS ROME IN EARLY MAY AS PART OF A EUROPEAN TRIP, BUT
WOULD NOT BE PINNED DOWN ON HOW ITALY INTENDED TO RESPOND.
HE CONFIDED THAT ITALY'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WITH CHINA WAS
TRADE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE CHINESE PENCHANT FOR TRADING IN

COUNTERFEIT GOODS. RESPONDING TO THE DCM'S QUERY,
CASTELLANETA SAID CHINA HAD NEVER TRIED TO LINK BETTER
BEHAVIOR ON IPR TO LIFTING THE EU ARMS EMBARGO.


5. (C) ON APRIL 2, LUIGI MATTIOLO TOLD POLOFF THAT THE GOI
SHARES U.S. CONCERNS REGARDING A POSSIBLE EU DECISION TO LIFT
THE EMBARGO. "THE TIME IS NOT RIPE" FOR SUCH A SHIFT, HE
SAID. ITALY WILL PRESS THE POINT IN PSC DELIBERATIONS IN
BRUSSELS. MOREOVER, ITALY RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF ITS
PRODUCTIVE ARMS/TECHNOLOGY TRADE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S.
AND WILL TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT IN FORMULATING A NATIONAL
POSITION. MATTIOLO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SEVERAL OTHER EU
MEMBERS WERE FAR STRICTER THAN ITALY IN LINKING HUMAN RIGHTS
PROGRESS TO ENHANCED ARMS TRADE, AND THEREFORE IT WOULD BE
UNLIKELY THAT A CONSENSUS TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO COULD BE
REACHED. AT THE SAME TIME, MATTIOLO EMPHASIZED, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH CHINA OPEN
AND PRODUCTIVE. HE NOTED THAT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR
HIGH-LEVEL DEBATE ON THE ISSUE IS THE APRIL 26 GAERC.
ALTHOUGH THE AGENDA HAS NOT BEEN DRAFTED, HE "WOULD NOT BE
SURPRISED" TO SEE THE EMBARGO INCLUDED. IF IT IS, ITALY WOULD
URGE AN "EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS APPROACH" TO ANY REVISIONS IN
CURRENT RESTRICTIONS.


6. (C) CRISTINA RAVAGLIA ASSURED POLOFF ON APRIL 5 THAT THE
MFA IS WELL AWARE OF OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE EMBARGO AND
THE HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION IN CHINA. THE LINK TO US DEFENSE
TRADE POLICY WAS A NEW TWIST. SHE DESCRIBED THE ITALIAN
POSITION AS A "CAUTIOUS OPENING TO THE POSSIBILITY OF
REVISING" THE EMBARGO. PUBLIC OPINION AND INTERNAL POLITICS
WILL INFLUENCE THE DECISION, RAVAGLIA SAID. SHE DOUBTED ANY
DECISION WOULD BE REACHED IN THE NEAR TERM BECAUSE OF THE
LACK OF CONSENSUS IN THE EU AND INDICATED THAT THE JAPANESE
HAVE MADE THEIR CONCERNS KNOWN THROUGH A NUMBER OF RECENT
DEMARCHES.


7. (C) ACTION REQUESTS: OUR EFFORTS TO WORK THE ARMS EMBARGO
ISSUE WITH ITALY WOULD BE BOOSTED IF WE HAD MORE SPECIFIC
INFORMATION TO SHARE REGARDING THE NSPD-19 PROCESS. AS THE
MARCH 30 U.S.-ITALY AERONAUTICS CONFERENCE IN WASHINGTON,
D.C. UNDERSCORED, THE ITALIANS ARE EAGER TO FURTHER
STRENGTHEN DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL COOPERATION, BUT ARE CONCERNED

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ELPFULLY, WAKING UP TO THE FACT
THAT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THEY NEED TO IMPROVE AS WELL.
NEVERTHELESS, ACROSS THE BOARD ON DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL MATTERS,
ITALY IS INCREASINGLY DEMANDING HARD FACTS AND UPFRONT
ASSURANCES. WITHOUT AT LEAST A FEW ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE
FUTURE ADVANTAGES AT RISK IF THE EU LIFTS THE EMBARGO, WE ARE
CONCERNED THAT THE ITALIAN OFFICIALS WHO CARE MOST ABOUT THE
DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL RELATIONSHIP COULD BE HAMSTRUNG IN
INTERAGENCY DISCUSSIONS AND, CONCOMITANTLY, IN MAKING AN
EFFECTIVE ARGUMENT WITHIN THE EU FOR MAINTAINING THE STATUS
QUO.


8. (C) ACTION REQUESTS CONT: ADDITIONALLY, A KEY ELEMENT TO
MOVING ITALY OFF THE FENCE WILL BE ACTIVATING THE HUMAN
RIGHTS GROUPS--AND LEGISLATORS--THAT CARE ABOUT CHINA TO
WEIGH IN WITH THE GOVERNMENT. SO FAR, CONSIDERATION THE EU
IS GIVING TO LIFTING THE EMBARGO HAS BEEN OUT OF THE PUBLIC
EYE AS THE ITALIAN PRESS HAS GIVEN ALMOST NO PLAY TO THE
ISSUE. WE STRONGLY SUSPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENT BELIEVES
THERE WOULD BE LITTLE POLITICAL PRICE TO PAY DOMESTICALLY FOR
GOING ALONG WITH A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE SANCTIONS. WE CAN
TRY TO CHANGE ITS CALCULUS BY WORKING WITH INTERESTED NGOS
AND SELECT PARLIAMENTARIANS, BUT WOULD APPRECIATE GUIDANCE ON
WORKING OUTSIDE RESTRICTED CHANNELS TO AFFECT GOI DECISION
MAKING. END ACTION REQUESTS.
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