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04KUWAIT3878
2004-11-10 13:33:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Kuwait
Cable title:  

BRITISH WORKING BORDER PROBLEMS WITH KUWAITIS AND

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KUWAIT 003878 

SIPDIS

STATE FOR NEA/ARPI, NEA/I

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/09/2014
TAGS: PBTS PREL PTER IZ KU
SUBJECT: BRITISH WORKING BORDER PROBLEMS WITH KUWAITIS AND
IRAQIS

REF: A. BAGHDAD 1641

B. KUWAIT 2567

C. KUWAIT 2548

Classified By: Ambassador Richard LeBaron for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KUWAIT 003878

SIPDIS

STATE FOR NEA/ARPI, NEA/I

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/09/2014
TAGS: PBTS PREL PTER IZ KU
SUBJECT: BRITISH WORKING BORDER PROBLEMS WITH KUWAITIS AND
IRAQIS

REF: A. BAGHDAD 1641

B. KUWAIT 2567

C. KUWAIT 2548

Classified By: Ambassador Richard LeBaron for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C) Summary/Comment: The British Ambassador has been
working with the Kuwaitis and UK military elements in
Southern Iraq over the last two weeks to resolve some border
complaints made by the Kuwaitis. The GOK turned to the UK
Embassy partly because of the presence of UK forces in
southern Iraq and partly because a UK contractor was
apparently building a structure in Umm Qasr that the GOK
considered over the line. UK embassy Assistant DATT toured
the border area between Umm Qasr and Abdali to see six
problematic sites identified by the GOK. He did not believe
these constituted violations, but the UK will send an
engineering team from its forces in Iraq to take a closer
technical look on Friday, 12 November. GOK FM also raised
the border issue with us recently, noting disputes with Iraqi
farmers along the border, but he raised the issue as an
alert, not an action request for the USG. Separately, the
GOK reported to the British that the Iraqis had proposed in
the last few days that a joint Iraqi/Kuwaiti commission be
set up to deal with border management issues. We will stay
in touch with the UK mission and the GOK and advise on
developments. No action has been requested and we recommend
no specific USG action while the British sort through the
claims, and direct Kuwaiti/Iraqi cooperation evolves. End
Summary/Comment.


GOK Puts the Burden on the UK
--------------


2. (C) Ambassador LeBaron called on his British counterpart
on November 10 to discuss problems on the Iraq/Kuwait border.
Kuwaiti Foreign Minister Dr. Mohammed Sabah al-Salem
Al-Sabah had told us during an 8 November meeting that he
would be meeting separately with the UK Ambassador about
these issues. Ambassador Christopher Wilton said the GOK had
first contacted him about two weeks ago to say that there
were problems in the Umm Qasr area. The UK Ambassador had
been in contact subsequently with a Kuwaiti Colonel in charge
of the border police in the area, who had told him that

discussions of this problem had reached high levels of the
GOK and that there was serious discussion about actions that
should be taken. Apparently the problem had been aggravated
by an Iraqi Brigadier (NFI) on the Iraqi side who had been
heard to say that the Iraqis were merely taking back land
that belonged to them anyway. The UK Ambassador had acted to
calm the GOK Colonel and UK forces in Iraq had a chat with
the Iraqi Brigadier, and Gen. Rollo is keeping an eye on the
situation.


3. (C) The GOK FM met with the UK Ambassador on November 10
and complained of a UK firm that was constructing a building
(apparently a customs office) in Umm Qasr that appeared to
cross the border. An assistant DATT from the UK Embassy went
to the border in the company of GOK officials a few days ago
to view what the GOK officials thought were six problematic
sites between Umm Qasr and Abdali. (This appears to be the
area where all the suspected violations are occurring.) The
UK officer found construction right on the border line, but
he could not verify border violations. The UK forces in Iraq
will send engineers with the proper technical tools to take
another look this Friday. Most of the problems are in and
around Umm Qasr, where the UN had built facilities that
sometimes straddled the border.

Good News from Baghdad
--------------


4. (C) On November 9, the Kuwaiti Under Secretary for Foreign
Affairs told the UK Ambassador that just in the last few days
the Kuwaitis had received a proposal from the Iraqi
authorities calling for establishment of a joint commission
to deal with border issues. He said that the GOK would
respond positively to this suggestion. He also said that the
GOK might send a letter to the Security Council noting its
efforts to build a continuous pipe along the border line to
more clearly define the line and to prevent vehicles from
crossing at unauthorized points. The UK Ambassador cautioned
against making this a bigger UNSC issue.


Different Approach to Us
--------------

5. (C) At the end of a November 8 meeting between Ambassador
LeBaron and FM Dr. Mohammed on a variety of issues, the
latter independently raised the border problem in a different
way, both identifying different problems than those raised
with the UK COM and not asking for U.S. action. He said that
he was going to see the British Ambassador immediately after
the meeting, and said that the GOK was "trying to play it
cool" on this "troublesome" issue. The problem, he
explained, was not with the Interim Iraqi Government (IIG) or
the Iraqi Border Police. Dr. Mohammed said that his
discussions with the Iraqi Foreign Minister have been good,
and that they have worked to set up a joint technical
committee. He also did not mention any of the specific
allegations previously raised concerning incursions by Iraqi
Department of Border Enforcement Police (Ref A.) Dr.
Mohammed specifically said that he "does not want any action
yet" (by the USG),but that he "did want to alert us" to the
situation.


6. (C) Dr. Mohammed explained that due to repeated earlier
incursions, some possibly by Iraqi Border Police, some
possibly by unknown individuals (Refs B and C),the Kuwaiti
Ministry of Interior decided to build a pipe barrier along
the border, connecting concrete border marking pillars. The
MoI is doing this to keep vehicles from coming across, except
at the legitimate border crossings. The teams working on
this pipe barrier, and other Kuwaiti border-surveying teams
have been harassed repeatedly by "individuals with AK-47s",
according to Dr. Mohammed. Furthermore, the Foreign Minister
said that contractors hired by the Iraqis to build facilities
on the Iraq side of the border have crossed over into Kuwait
repeatedly, and that these contractors include U.K. nationals.


7. (C) Finally, Dr. Mohammed said that another
border-related issue involved property claims by Iraqi
farmers for border-area land that ended up in Kuwait after
the first Gulf War. The UN set up a fund to compensate the
farmers (which has about one million dollars) but Saddam
Hussein told the farmers not to take the compensation,
according to Dr. Mohammed. In addition to drawing from the
fund, "we're willing to pay Kuwaiti money now to resolve
these claims."


8. (C) Baghdad minimize considered.
LeBaron