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04CARACAS3271
2004-10-22 20:33:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Caracas
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VENEZUELAN AMBASSADOR DISCUSSES BILATERAL AGENDA

Tags:  PGOV PREL PHUM KDEM VE 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L CARACAS 003271 

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E.O. 12958:
DECL: 12/08/2013
TAGS: PGOV PREL PHUM KDEM VE
SUBJECT: VENEZUELAN AMBASSADOR DISCUSSES BILATERAL AGENDA

Classified By: Political Counselor Abelardo A. Arias for
reason 1.4 (d).

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C O N F I D E N T I A L CARACAS 003271

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E.O. 12958:
DECL: 12/08/2013
TAGS: PGOV PREL PHUM KDEM VE
SUBJECT: VENEZUELAN AMBASSADOR DISCUSSES BILATERAL AGENDA

Classified By: Political Counselor Abelardo A. Arias for
reason 1.4 (d).

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SUMMARY
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1. (C) Venezuela's Ambassador to the U.S. Bernardo Alvarez_
told us October 18 he is amenable to meeting with National
Endowment for Democracy (NED) President Carl Gershman to
discuss GoV perspectives regarding NED support to NGOs such
as Sumate. In a breakfast meeting with Ambassador and
PolCouns, Alvarez_ also welcomed the Ambassador's offer to
begin discussion of ideas for an agenda for possible
bilateral discussions. The Ambassador noted that better
communication can help with issues such as the Sumate
controversy or trafficking in persons. Alvarez_ highlighted
the cooperation on the case of the Venezuelan soldiers
seeking asylum whose extradition has been requested as a sign
of how an issue can be handled positively. End Summary.


2. (C) The Ambassador and Venezuela's Ambassador to the U.S.
Bernardo Alvarez_ met over breakfast at the Residence October

18. PolCouns and MFA Director General Temir Porras
accompanied the Ambassadors.


3. (C) Discussing the case against the NGO Sumate, Alvarez_
told the Ambassador that he had received a letter from
National Endowment for Democracy (NED) President Carl
Gershman prior to leaving Washington requesting a meeting.
Alvarez_ said he was amenable to such a meeting to help
resolve the controversy over NED funding for Venezuelan NGOs.
The Ambassador encouraged Alvarez_ to speak with Gershman as
soon as he returned. Having such a meeting, the Ambassador
emphasized, would be an important first step, especially
since the GoV could expect more Washington attention to the
Sumate case. Alvarez_ acknowledged that the GoV's pursuit of
the Sumate is costing him some of the ground he has gained
for the GoV in Washington.


4. (C) Alvarez_ told the Ambassador that, unlike USAID
activities which focus on reconciliation, the NED's $1
million funding of activities in Venezuela since April 2002
has been directed at undermining the GoV. He warned that
researchers looking into the activities are tracing the links
of government opponents to the NED and then the Department of
State. Alvarez_ asked rhetorically whether it is not against
U.S. law for organizations to receive funding for political
reasons. (The Ambassador told Alvarez_ he believed our only
restrictions relate specifically to election campaign
funding.) He said he ensures that "his people" maintain
meticulous records to comply with the Foreign Agents
Registration Act.

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Pursuing the Bilateral Agenda
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5. (C) The two Ambassadors agreed that it is important to
find avenues to improve communications between our two
governments. The Ambassador offered to put together for
Alvarez_ a list of possible points for discussion which the
Venezuelans could consider and amend. Once we have agreement
on the list of points here, the Ambassador said, he would
then propose them to Washington. Determining whether or at
what level the discussions would take place would follow, he
told Alvarez_.


6. (C) The Ambassador noted that what occurred with the
trafficking in persons report, and subsequent sanctions, is
an example of the need for better communication. He told
Alvarez_ that we understand that the GoV may have been
otherwise preoccupied between June and August, but now the
effects were being felt as with the World Bank loan for
Venezuela's judiciary.


7. (C) Alvarez_ noted that recent developments in the case of
the two Venezuelan soldiers (who sought asylum in the U.S.
and whose extradition the GoV has requested) were a sign of
how the two sides can handle an issue positively. Alvarez_
added that we "could expect paper" on (the extradition) of
Robert Alonso soon. (Note: The GoV has charged Alonso in
the case of the alleged Colombian paramilitaries who
reportedly were poised to attack Caracas earlier this year.)
Alvarez_ also suggested that the GoV would like to move to

conclude the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty.

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Comment
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8. (C) Alvarez_ was clear that the GoV would like to pursue
talks with us. He accepted that there are areas where we are
not going to find common ground, but is willing to test the
waters in others. As for Sumate and NED, he gave no
indication that the GoV would relent. To the contrary,
taking note of his warning about the work of researchers,
there is more in store, including the possibility of gambling
on making Sumate's Maria Corina Machado a martyr. While some
parts of the GoV may attempt to disassociate themselves from
aspersions cast against U.S. institutions and the USG, we do
not expect them to bring them to a halt.
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