Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
04BEIRUT408
2004-01-22 16:29:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Beirut
Cable title:
LEBANON: BERRI EMPHASIZES AL-SISTANI'S IMPORTANCE
P 221629Z JAN 04 FM AMEMBASSY BEIRUT TO SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 9890 INFO ISLAMIC CONFERENCE COLLECTIVE AMEMBASSY PORT AU PRINCE HQ COALITION PROV AUTH BAGHDAD
C O N F I D E N T I A L BEIRUT 000408
PARIS FOR ZEYA
PORT AU PRINCE FOR SCHMONSEES
E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/20/2014
TAGS: PREL KISL PINR SOCI LE IZ
SUBJECT: LEBANON: BERRI EMPHASIZES AL-SISTANI'S IMPORTANCE
FOR AMAL MOVEMENT, AND FOR SHI'AS IN GENERAL
CLASSIFIED BY: AMBASSADOR VINCENT M. BATTLE; REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D).
C O N F I D E N T I A L BEIRUT 000408
PARIS FOR ZEYA
PORT AU PRINCE FOR SCHMONSEES
E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/20/2014
TAGS: PREL KISL PINR SOCI LE IZ
SUBJECT: LEBANON: BERRI EMPHASIZES AL-SISTANI'S IMPORTANCE
FOR AMAL MOVEMENT, AND FOR SHI'AS IN GENERAL
CLASSIFIED BY: AMBASSADOR VINCENT M. BATTLE; REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D).
1. (C) IN A JANUARY 15 CONVERSATION WITH AMBASSADOR,
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER NABIH BERRI SAID HE AND HIS AMAL
MOVEMENT FOLLOWERS LOOKED TO IRAQ'S GRAND AYATOLLAH ALI
AL-SISTANI AS THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY.
ACCORDING TO BERRI, AMAL HAD PREVIOUSLY LOOKED TO ITS
FOUNDER, IMAM MOUSA AL-SADR, THEN, FOLLOWING AL-SADR'S
DISAPPEARANCE IN LIBYA IN 1978, TO LEBANESE HIGHER SHI'A
COUNCIL HEAD MOHAMMAD MEHDI SHAMSEDDIN, WHO DIED THREE YEARS
AGO.
2. (C) AL-SISTANI'S FOLLOWING IN LEBANON WAS NOT LIMITED TO
AMAL MEMBERS, ACCORDING TO BERRI. IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF
LEBANON'S SHI'AS, INCLUDING SOME MEMBERS OF HIZBALLAH, LOOKED
TO AL-SISTANI FOR GUIDANCE. AL-SISTANI'S INFLUENCE WAS ALSO
STRONG IN IRAN. COMPARING AL-SISTANI WITH THE LEBANESE SHI'A
LEADER MOHAMMAD HUSSEIN FADLALLAH, BERRI USED THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH AS AN ANALOGY: AL-SISTANI IS "LIKE THE POPE" FOR THE
WORLD'S SHI'AS, WHILE FADLALLAH'S STANDING IS ANALOGOUS TO
THAT OF LEBANON'S MARONITE PATRIARCH. "NOT EVERY MARJ'A
(SHI'A RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY) IS SMART," BERRI SAID.
AL-SISTANI, HOWEVER, IS NOT ONLY WIDELY RESPECTED BUT ALSO
HIGHLY INTELLIGENT.
3. (C) BERRI AT FIRST CLAIMED THE AMAL MOVEMENT WAS "VERY
ACTIVE" IN IRAQ, ALTHOUGH HE LATER BACKPEDALED, SAYING HE
MEANT AMAL WAS SIMPLY "RESPECTED" AMONG IRAQIS. AS PROOF OF
THIS, BERRI HAS RECEIVED A NUMBER OF HIGH-RANKING IRAQI
OFFICIALS IN BEIRUT. FOR EXAMPLE, HE HAS RECEIVED AN IRAQI
OFFICIAL NAMED AL-ALLAWI (IGC MEMBER WITH LEBANON
CONNECTIONS) THREE TIMES SO FAR, HE SAID. REGARDING PLANS
FOR A TRANSITION TO IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY, BERRI ADVISED THE USG
TO "PAY ATTENTION" TO AL-SISTANI'S DEMANDS FOR DIRECT
ELECTIONS. "DON'T MAKE A MISTAKE" IN DEALING WITH IRAQ'S
SHI'AS, HE SAID. IT WAS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE
NO DIVISION OF IRAQ -- "WE DON'T WANT WHAT HAPPENED IN
LEBANON."
BATTLE
PARIS FOR ZEYA
PORT AU PRINCE FOR SCHMONSEES
E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/20/2014
TAGS: PREL KISL PINR SOCI LE IZ
SUBJECT: LEBANON: BERRI EMPHASIZES AL-SISTANI'S IMPORTANCE
FOR AMAL MOVEMENT, AND FOR SHI'AS IN GENERAL
CLASSIFIED BY: AMBASSADOR VINCENT M. BATTLE; REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D).
1. (C) IN A JANUARY 15 CONVERSATION WITH AMBASSADOR,
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER NABIH BERRI SAID HE AND HIS AMAL
MOVEMENT FOLLOWERS LOOKED TO IRAQ'S GRAND AYATOLLAH ALI
AL-SISTANI AS THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY.
ACCORDING TO BERRI, AMAL HAD PREVIOUSLY LOOKED TO ITS
FOUNDER, IMAM MOUSA AL-SADR, THEN, FOLLOWING AL-SADR'S
DISAPPEARANCE IN LIBYA IN 1978, TO LEBANESE HIGHER SHI'A
COUNCIL HEAD MOHAMMAD MEHDI SHAMSEDDIN, WHO DIED THREE YEARS
AGO.
2. (C) AL-SISTANI'S FOLLOWING IN LEBANON WAS NOT LIMITED TO
AMAL MEMBERS, ACCORDING TO BERRI. IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF
LEBANON'S SHI'AS, INCLUDING SOME MEMBERS OF HIZBALLAH, LOOKED
TO AL-SISTANI FOR GUIDANCE. AL-SISTANI'S INFLUENCE WAS ALSO
STRONG IN IRAN. COMPARING AL-SISTANI WITH THE LEBANESE SHI'A
LEADER MOHAMMAD HUSSEIN FADLALLAH, BERRI USED THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH AS AN ANALOGY: AL-SISTANI IS "LIKE THE POPE" FOR THE
WORLD'S SHI'AS, WHILE FADLALLAH'S STANDING IS ANALOGOUS TO
THAT OF LEBANON'S MARONITE PATRIARCH. "NOT EVERY MARJ'A
(SHI'A RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY) IS SMART," BERRI SAID.
AL-SISTANI, HOWEVER, IS NOT ONLY WIDELY RESPECTED BUT ALSO
HIGHLY INTELLIGENT.
3. (C) BERRI AT FIRST CLAIMED THE AMAL MOVEMENT WAS "VERY
ACTIVE" IN IRAQ, ALTHOUGH HE LATER BACKPEDALED, SAYING HE
MEANT AMAL WAS SIMPLY "RESPECTED" AMONG IRAQIS. AS PROOF OF
THIS, BERRI HAS RECEIVED A NUMBER OF HIGH-RANKING IRAQI
OFFICIALS IN BEIRUT. FOR EXAMPLE, HE HAS RECEIVED AN IRAQI
OFFICIAL NAMED AL-ALLAWI (IGC MEMBER WITH LEBANON
CONNECTIONS) THREE TIMES SO FAR, HE SAID. REGARDING PLANS
FOR A TRANSITION TO IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY, BERRI ADVISED THE USG
TO "PAY ATTENTION" TO AL-SISTANI'S DEMANDS FOR DIRECT
ELECTIONS. "DON'T MAKE A MISTAKE" IN DEALING WITH IRAQ'S
SHI'AS, HE SAID. IT WAS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE
NO DIVISION OF IRAQ -- "WE DON'T WANT WHAT HAPPENED IN
LEBANON."
BATTLE