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02HANOI1274
2002-05-20 07:37:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Hanoi
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ACTIVISM OVER RELIGIOUS PROPERTY COMPLAINTS

Tags:  PHUM SOCI KIRF VM HUMANR RELFREE 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001274 

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STATE FOR EAP/BCLTV AND DRL

E.O. 12958: DECL 05/20/2012
TAGS: PHUM SOCI KIRF VM HUMANR RELFREE
SUBJECT: ACTIVISM OVER RELIGIOUS PROPERTY COMPLAINTS

REF: 2001 HANOI 2321

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 001274

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STATE FOR EAP/BCLTV AND DRL

E.O. 12958: DECL 05/20/2012
TAGS: PHUM SOCI KIRF VM HUMANR RELFREE
SUBJECT: ACTIVISM OVER RELIGIOUS PROPERTY COMPLAINTS

REF: 2001 HANOI 2321


1. (U) CLASSIFIED BY SCOTT BELLARD, POL/C; REASON 1.5(D)


2. (C) SUMMARY: ACCORDING TO ONE CRITIC, LOCAL
AUTHORITIES IN SOME PLACES REFUSE TO RETURN PAGODA AND
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TEMPLE LAND APPROPRIATED BEFORE AND AFTER 1975, DESPITE
ONGOING COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS TO DISTRICT, PROVINCIAL,
AND NATIONAL OFFICIALS. PERCEIVED GVN INDIFFERENCE TO
VIETNAM'S RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL HERITAGE HAS MOTIVATED AT
LEAST A FEW ACTIVISTS TO EMBARK ON EFFORTS TO PROTECT
BUDDHIST PAGODAS AND TRADITIONAL TEMPLES THREATENED BY LAND
USE CHANGES. END SUMMARY.


3. (C) RETIRED SENIOR COLONEL TURNED ACTIVIST PHAM QUE
DUONG INVITED EMBOFFS TO HIS HANOI HOME ON MAY 3 TO DISCUSS
VIETNAMESE "CULTURE" AND, ON MAY 7, TOOK POLOFF TO HIS HOME
VILLAGE IN HA TAY PROVINCE TO VISIT TRADITIONAL TEMPLE
SITES AND PAGODAS IN THE AREA. HE DESCRIBED ONGOING
PROBLEMS RELATED TO GVN TREATMENT OF BUDDHIST PAGODAS AND
TRADITIONAL TEMPLES. DUONG (ONE OF THE SIGNATORIES OF THE
SEPTEMBER 2001 PROPOSAL TO SET UP A CITIZEN'S GROUP "TO
HELP THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF VIETNAM (CPV) AND THE GVN FIGHT
CORRUPTION" -- REFTEL) STATED THAT HIS ACTIVISM DATES BACK
TO 1986-87, WHEN CONSTRUCTION OF THE HO CHI MINH MUSEUM IN
HANOI THREATENED THE FAMOUS ONE PILLAR PAGODA. ALARMED AT
THE GVN'S INDIFFERENCE TO ONE OF VIETNAM'S MOST HISTORIC
RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL SITES, DUONG, AT THAT TIME STILL
EDITOR OF THE ARMY'S HISTORICAL JOURNAL, HELPED LEAD A
SUCCESSFUL EFFORT TO CHANGE THE MUSEUM'S DESIGN AND
PRESERVE THE PAGODA.


4. (C) DUONG SAID HE HAD DEVELOPED AN INTEREST IN
PROTECTING OTHER PAGODAS AND TRADITIONAL TEMPLES,
ESPECIALLY THOSE IN AND AROUND TU DUONG, HIS HOME VILLAGE.
ACCORDING TO DUONG AND LOCAL RESIDENTS, DISTRICT AND
PROVINCIAL OFFICIALS TORE DOWN THE VILLAGE PAGODA IN 1967-
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68. THE SITE IS NOW A RICE FIELD, BUT THEY SAID THAT THE
GOVERNMENT SOLD THE LAND TO A HANOI COMPANY AS A "FACTORY
SITE" SEVERAL YEARS AGO. VILLAGE RESIDENTS RECOUNTED THAT

DISTRICT AND PROVINCIAL OFFICIALS HAD ALSO APPROVED THE
DESTRUCTION OF TWO OF TU DUONG'S TEMPLES AND THE CONVERSION
OF A THIRD INTO A STORE DURING THE WAR. ONLY ONE TEMPLE,
INSIDE THE VILLAGE DINH (COMMUNITY HALL),REMAINS,
ALONGSIDE AN ALTAR DEDICATED TO HO CHI MINH. VILLAGE
RESIDENTS SAID WHEN THE TEMPLES WERE DESTROYED, THEY
BELIEVED THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO REBUILD THEM. DESPITE
ONGOING "COMPLAINTS" FROM VILLAGE RESIDENTS TO DISTRICT,
PROVINCIAL, AND NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIALS, TU DUONG
RESIDENTS SAID THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ANY SATISFACTORY ANSWER
TO THEIR COMPLAINTS.


5. (C) DUONG TOOK POLOFF TO TWO NEARBY BUDDHIST SITES,
HOI SA PAGODA AND CANH PHUC TU PAGODA, JUST OVER THE BORDER
IN HA NAM PROVINCE. MONKS AT THE 1000 YEAR-OLD HOI SA
PAGODA SAID THAT THE ARMY HAD APPROPRIATED LAND JUST NORTH
OF THE PAGODA'S BUILDINGS FOR A WAREHOUSE DURING THE WAR.
THEY SAID THAT THE WAREHOUSE HAD NOT BEEN USED FOR MANY
YEARS, BUT THE ARMY WAS UNWILLING TO RETURN IT. ACCORDING
TO THE MONKS, THE WAREHOUSE SPOILS THE PAGODA'S AESTHETICS.
RICE PADDIES BORDER THE PAGODA'S OTHER THREE SIDES. CANH
PHUC TU PAGODA, ACCORDING TO DUONG, WAS ONE OF THE TWO MOST
BEAUTIFUL PAGODAS IN HA NAM, ENCOMPASSING 21 HECTARES WITH
A FAMOUS GARDEN. ALL BUT 1744 SQUARE METERS WERE LOST TO A
MILITARY WAREHOUSE DURING THE WAR, PAGODA ATTENDANTS NOTED,
AND IN THE LATE 1990'S THE POLICE EXPROPRIATED MORE LAND
IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PAGODA'S BUILDINGS, LEAVING ONLY
598 SQUARE METERS. ONE 300-400 YEAR-OLD TREE REMAINS OF
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THE GARDEN. THEY SAID THAT THE POLICE HAD BUILT TWO
HOUSES, AMONG OTHER BUILDINGS, ON THE RECENTLY EXPROPRIATED
LAND. FOUR NUNS AT THE PAGODA ADDED THAT THEY CONTINUED TO
COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LOSS OF PAGODA LAND BUT HAD NEVER
RECEIVED AN ANSWER FROM DISTRICT AUTHORITIES AND THAT
PROVINCIAL AUTHORITIES HAD GIVEN AN ESSENTIALLY "UNETHICAL"
ANSWER. DUONG SAID THAT THE POLICE WERE PARTICULARLY ANGRY
WITH HIM AFTER HE BECAME INVOLVED WITH CANH PHUC TU PAGODA
IN 1999.


6. (C) DUONG POINTED OUT TWO MAIN REASONS HE SAID THE GVN
CONTINUES TO TREAT PAGODA AND TEMPLE LAND WITHOUT RESPECT.
ONE REASON IS IDEOLOGICAL: MARXISM-LENINISM IS
MATERIALISTIC AND UNCONCERNED WITH SPIRITUAL NEEDS. WHILE
HE CLAIMED REPEATEDLY TO BE A COMMUNIST, HE DISCUSSED AT
SOME LENGTH CONTRADICTIONS BETWEEN MARXISM-LENINISM AND
RELIGIOUS BELIEF, CONCLUDING THAT HE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO
RECONCILE THESE DIFFERENCES. AS A PATRIOT, HE SAID HE HAD
TO PROTECT VIETNAM'S CULTURE AND TRADITIONS. THE SECOND
REASON, HE ALLEGED, IS THAT GVN OFFICIALS ARE SELLING OR
USING THE APPROPRIATED LAND FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT.


7. (C) COMMENT: OTHER RELIGIOUS FIGURES INCLUDING THE

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ARCHBISHOP OF HANOI HAVE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT LAND
EXPROPRIATION AND PROPERTY DISPUTES. WHILE THESE IN HA TAY
AND HA NAM ARE MOSTLY REMNANTS OF THE WAR, THE
UNWILLINGNESS OR INABILITY OF THE GVN -- ESPECIALLY THE
GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE ON RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS -- TO RESOLVE
THEM CONTINUES TO CREATE SOME RESENTMENT. MORE LOCAL
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ACTIVISM MAY FOLLOW, EVEN AT THE RISK OF "DAMAGING NATIONAL
SOLIDARITY."
BURGHARDT

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