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01HOCHIMINHCITY1201
2001-10-23 04:07:00
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Consulate Ho Chi Minh City
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FATHER NGUYEN VAN LY SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS

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TAGS: PHUM KIRF VM HUMANR RELFREE
SUBJECT: FATHER NGUYEN VAN LY SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS

REF: A. HANOI 2276 B. HCMC 0688 AND PREVIOUS C. HCMC
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DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV AND EAP/PD/MSPEER
DEPARTMENT ALSO FOR DRL/IRF
CINCPAC FOR FPA
SECDEF FOR ISA/EA/ABLAGG

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SUBJECT: FATHER NGUYEN VAN LY SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS

REF: A. HANOI 2276 B. HCMC 0688 AND PREVIOUS C. HCMC
1134


1. LOCAL MEDIA REPORTED THAT FATHER NGUYEN VAN LY,
CATHOLIC PRIEST ARRESTED MAY 17, STOOD TRIAL ON OCTOBER
19 IN THUA THIEN HUE PROVINCE. THE PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S
COURT HANDED DOWN A SENTENCE OF 15 YEARS IMPRISONMENT
TO FATHER LY - TWO YEARS FOR DISOBEYING THE
"ADMINISTRATIVE PROBATION" (HOUSE ARREST) ORDERS HE WAS
PLACED UNDER IN FEBRUARY, AND 13 YEARS FOR DAMAGING THE
GOVERNMENT'S "UNITY POLICY." IN ADDITION, THE COURT
ORDERED ADMINISTRATIVE PROBATION, WHICH WILL CONFINE LY
TO HIS PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR 5 YEARS AFTER HE IS
RELEASED FROM PRISON. BOTH PROVINCIAL AND NATIONAL
TELEVISION (VTV1) BROADCAST THE SENTENCING ON THE
EVENING NEWS.


2. FATHER LY HAS ALREADY SPENT 10 YEARS IN PRISON (FROM
1981 TO 1991) FOR ANTI-REVOLUTIONARY ACTIVITIES. IN
NOVEMBER 2000, HE CIRCULATED A LETTER CHARGING THE
GOVERNMENT WITH ABUSE OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. IN
FEBRUARY 2001, HE MET WITH DISSIDENT HOA HAO AND
BUDDHIST LEADERS IN HUE TO ORGANIZE A "COUNCIL FOR
INTER-RELIGIOUS UNITY" OUTSIDE OF GVN AUTHORITY. ONE
WEEK LATER, HE SUBMITTED WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT WAS
HIGHLY CRITICAL OF THE GVN TO THE U.S. COMMISSION ON
INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. ON FEBRUARY 14, THE
PROVINCIAL PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE OF THUA THIEN HUE
PROVINCE PUT HIM UNDER A HOUSE ARREST ORDER. FATHER
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LY, HOWEVER, CONTINUED TO SPEAK OUT DURING HIS SERMONS,
HUNG BANNERS AT HIS CHURCH CALLING FOR RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM, AND ATTEMPTED TO BREAK HIS HOUSE ARREST BY
TRAVELING OUTSIDE HIS CHURCH COMPOUND.


3. SEVERAL POLICEMEN ARRESTED FATHER LY EARLY IN THE
MORNING OF MAY 17. LATER THAT DAY, ACCORDING TO
SEVERAL WITNESSES, APPROXIMATELY 300 POLICEMEN CAME TO
THE CHURCH COMPOUND TO FORCIBLY DISBURSE A CROWD OF 300
- 500 PERSONS, WHO WERE PROTESTING THE ARREST.


4. ON OCTOBER 22, IN A MEETING WITH THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR
OF THE AMERICAS DEPARTMENT OF THE MFA ON ANOTHER
SUBJECT, EMBASSY POL/C RAISED FATHER LY'S SENTENCE,
NOTED THE ADDITIONAL CONCERN THIS WOULD CREATE IN
WASHINGTON, AND OBSERVED THAT THE VIETNAM HUMAN RIGHTS
ACT WAS STILL PENDING BEFORE THE SENATE. THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR MERELY REPEATED THE USUAL LINE THAT THE CASE
WAS ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND NOT ABOUT RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM. CONGEN POLOFF WAS UNABLE TO REACH EITHER THE
ARCHBISHOP OF HUE OR THE ARCHBISHOP OF HCMC FOR
COMMENT. (THE ARCHBISHOP OF HCMC IS CURRENTLY
TRAVELING IN ROME.) A CATHOLIC PRIEST IN HUE AND TWO
OTHERS IN HCMC DECLINED TO TALK WITH POLOFF ABOUT THE
SENTENCING. ONE PRIEST SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING TO
TALK WITH POLOFF "AFTER SOME TIME HAS PASSED."

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5. POST BELIEVES THE HARSH SENTENCE MAY HAVE RESULTED
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IN PART FROM LY'S TESTIMONY TO THE U.S. COMMISSION ON
INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. THE GOVERNMENT
TOLERATES SOME CRITICISM ABOUT CERTAIN POLICIES -- WHEN
IT IS MADE CONSTRUCTIVELY AND IN PRIVATE. FATHER LY'S
DELIBERATE, PUBLIC CRITICISM OF THE GOVERNMENT -- SENT
IN WRITTEN FORM TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT ENTITY - LED TO
THIS HARSH GVN REACTION. THE 15-YEAR SENTENCE IS
SEVERE. IN CONTRAST, POST NOTES THE "RINGLEADER" OF
THIS YEAR'S ETHNIC DEMONSTRATIONS IN THE CENTRAL
HIGHLANDS RECEIVED A 12-YEAR SENTENCE, AND OTHERS
INVOLVED WITH THIS UNREST RECEIVED FAR LESS.

YAMAUCHI

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