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00TELAVIV4462
2000-08-24 14:45:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Tel Aviv
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BIN LADIN CONNECTION IN GAZA FOUND PUZZLING; CONNECTION TO HAMAS QUESTIONED

Tags:  IS KWBG PGOV PREL PTER 
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O 241445Z AUG 00
FM AMEMBASSY TEL AVIV
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 0732
INFO ARAB ISRAELI COLLECTIVE
C O N F I D E N T I A L TEL AVIV 004462 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/24/05
TAGS: KWBG, PTER, PGOV, PREL, IS
SUBJECT: BIN LADIN CONNECTION IN GAZA FOUND PUZZLING;
CONNECTION TO HAMAS QUESTIONED

CLASSIFIED BY DCM PSIMONS PER 1.5 (B) AND (D)


C O N F I D E N T I A L TEL AVIV 004462

- - C O R R E C T E D C O P Y - - CLASSIFIED BY LINE ADDED

E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/24/05
TAGS: KWBG, PTER, PGOV, PREL, IS
SUBJECT: BIN LADIN CONNECTION IN GAZA FOUND PUZZLING;
CONNECTION TO HAMAS QUESTIONED

CLASSIFIED BY DCM PSIMONS PER 1.5 (B) AND (D)


1. (C) POLITICAL CONTACTS IN GAZA EXPRESSED PUZZLEMENT
AT ISRAELI MEDIA REPORTS OF A BIN LADIN TERROR NETWORK IN
GAZA. PA MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (AND FORMER HAMAS
SPOKESPERSON) IMAD FALOUJI TOLD POLOFF THAT HE KNEW THE
KEY SUSPECT, NABIL OUKAL, WHO WAS A NEIGHBOR FROM
JABALIYA REFUGEE CAMP. FALOUJI EXPRESSED PUZZLEMENT AND
A DEGREE OF SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE MEDIA REPORTS. OUKAL
WAS A RELIGIOUS PERSON AND A MEMBER OF THE DAIWA PARTY,
AN ISLAMIC PARTY IN GAZA WHICH EMPHASIZES THAT AN ISLAMIC
STATE WILL ONLY COME ABOUT AFTER EXTENSIVE RELIGIOUS
REFORM AND SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT, NOTED FALOUJI. THE
PARTY DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE NECESSITY OF POLITICAL
ACTION TO REACH SUCH A GOAL, BUT FOCUSES ON THE SPIRITUAL
SIDE. UNLIKE HAMAS AND OTHER RADICAL ISLAMIC GROUPS,
MEMBERSHIP IN THIS PARTY IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
JOIN, WITHOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS INTO FAMILY OR PREVIOUS
PARTY AFFILIATIONS, FALOUJI ASSERTED. DURING THE
INTIFADAH YEARS, BECAUSE OF ITS OPEN MEMBERSHIP, THE
PARTY WAS HEAVILY PENETRATED BY MORE RADICAL ISLAMIC
FACTIONS AND BY ISRAELI SECURITY FORCES, ALL OF WHOM USED
IT TO SPY ON EACH OTHER, NOTED FALOUJI.

2. (C) FALOUJI SAID OUKAL DID NOT "WORK WITH HAMAS"
AND THE MINISTER DID NOT BELIEVE HAMAS HAD DIRECT
CONNECTIONS WITH ANY BIN LADIN GROUP. "HAMAS HAS
EVERYTHING, MONEY, ORGANIZATION, A MILITARY WING," AND
HAD NO NEED FOR AN ASSOCIATION WITH SUCH A GROUP, FALOUJI
OBSERVED. FALOUJI ALSO DOUBTED THAT SHEIKH YASSIN, THE
FOUNDER AND SPIRITUAL HEAD OF HAMAS, WOULD ENTER INTO
SUCH A RELATION. "IT IS A MISTAKE HE WOULD NOT MAKE. I
KNOW SHEIKH YASSIN AND HOW HE THINKS." YASSIN WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST MEN TO ESTABLISH A MILITARY WING IN GAZA AND
KNEW VERY WELL THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE CAPABLE OF
SUCH ACTIVITIES. "OUKAL IS NOT THE MAN TO BE DOING THIS,
HE IS NOT A MILITARY TYPE MAN," AND YASSIN WOULD KNOW
THAT, FALOUJI ASSERTED.

3. (C) IN ADDITION, HAMAS WOULD BE VERY WARY OF
ESTABLISHING A RELATION WITH BIN LADIN BECAUSE OF THE
PRECARIOUS POSITION OF HAMAS' LEADERSHIP ABROAD, ALL OF
WHOM RESIDE IN COUNTRIES WITH REGIMES THAT DETEST BIN
LADIN, SAID FALOUJI. JORDAN, SYRIA, AND GULF COUNTRIES
MAINTAINED "GOOD" RELATIONS WITH HAMAS AND WOULD HAVE
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ANY RELATIONS
BETWEEN HAMAS AND BIN LADIN. FALOUJI DID NOT COMPLETELY
RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF
INDIRECT, ARMS-LENGTH RELATION BETWEEN HAMAS IN GAZA AND
OUKAL'S GROUP BUT IF IT EXISTED, IT IS LIKELY TO HAVE
BEEN VIEWED AS A LOW-LEVEL, 'BILATERAL' POLITICAL
RELATIONSHIP, NOT AN OPERATIONAL OR SECURITY
RELATIONSHIP, SAID FALOUJI.

4. (C) FALOUJI MAINTAINED THAT THE MEDIA WAS BLOWING ANY
GAZA BIN LADIN CONNECTION OUT OF PROPORTION. HE
SPECULATED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION BETWEEN
OUKAL AND BIN LADIN, BUT DOUBTED IT WAS VERY EXTENSIVE.
MAYBE OUKAL MET SOME BIN LADIN PEOPLE ABROAD, FOR EXAMPLE
IN JORDAN OR SAUDI ARABIA, AND POSSIBILITIES WERE
DISCUSSED, BUT HE DOUBTED IF IT WENT MUCH BEYOND THIS
TYPE OF APPROACH.

5. (C) AHMAD ABDEL RAHMAN, SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE PA
CABINET ALSO FOUND THE MEDIA REPORTS PUZZLING. HE
DESCRIBED BIN LADIN AS AN "IDIOT" WHO WOULD HAVE
DIFFICULTY PERSUADING PALESTINIANS TO JOIN HIS TERROR
EFFORTS. ABDEL RAHMAN ALSO NOTED THAT "PALESTINIANS HAVE
THEIR OWN RADICAL ORGANIZATIONS," AND THAT ONLY ISOLATED
FIGHTERS IN THE MOUNTAINS OF CENTRAL ASIA WOULD FIND BIN
LADIN'S OUTFIT WORTH JOINING, ALTHOUGH HE ADMITTED THAT
SOME POOR PALESTINIAN STUDENTS STUDYING IN PAKISTAN, FOR
EXAMPLE, MIGHT FIND BIN LADIN'S CALLS APPEALING.

6. (C) COMMENT: THESE REACTIONS ARE FROM PA POLITICAL--
NOT SECURITY -- SOURCES AND SHOULD BE VIEWED IN THAT
LIGHT. HOWEVER, OTHER AGENCY REPORTING TENDS TO SUPPORT
THE THRUST OF THESE COMMENTS TO THE EFFECT THAT THE
EXTENT OF THE BIN LADIN CONNECTION IN GAZA MAY NOT BE AS
DEVELOPED AS REPORTED IN THE ISRAELI MEDIA. IT IS ALSO
WORTH NOTING THAT IN THE PAST FALOUJI'S ASSESSMENTS OF
SOME ISLAMIST PLAYERS IN GAZA HAVE PROVEN USEFUL. END
COMMENT.


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